Getting independent of oil

Jerry Martin

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One of the biggest plagues of the transportation world in my opinion, is certainly the dependence from oil, itself dependent more of Middle East countries with not so fair practices than domestic production. Well, it is dependent of gas, to be precise, but that does not matter a lot, it is dependent of an highly volatile commodity, that can double the price in few years and make your profitable business an headache in the next decade.

One way to get around it is to advocate for more home production of oil, but oil is a resource, so it is pretty complicated to create oil out of nothing. Another way would be to rather to get independent of oil, and smile when your concurrent is still dependents of it and you're more profitable than they are.
Do you think it is possible and/or likely to get independent from oil now? Are you doing efforts into it? Don't you find oil dependence is a plague and a problem?
 

Norm

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Re: Getting independent of oil

I think it's possible right now, but too many people in power already depend a lot on the survival of the industry so it ends up being favored. I trust that soon it will happen but not before resources run out, and Probably by the time we transfer to another medium the ones in control will just set up rules to make it just as expensive as the previous one so I think it won't make that much of a difference for consumers.
 

Hulk

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Re: Getting independent of oil

Big oil is keeping the prices up artificially at the pump but are buying it for peanuts in the middle east at the moment. all the while the consumer pays the price
 

Corzhens

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Re: Getting independent of oil

Pardon me but I don't see any other way to deviate from oil for fuel. There was a time that the government had an advocacy to plant a crop that would be extracted into organic fuel (jatropha) but it didn't prosper simply because it turned out only to be a hype. The latest hype is the LPG fueled taxicabs that, for the nth time, turned out to be contrary to claims that LPG (liquefied petroleum gas) is cheaper. Now taxicabs that converted their fuel system to LPG is having a hard time in finding refilling stations.
 

nytegeek

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Re: Getting independent of oil

Pardon me but I don't see any other way to deviate from oil for fuel. There was a time that the government had an advocacy to plant a crop that would be extracted into organic fuel (jatropha) but it didn't prosper simply because it turned out only to be a hype. The latest hype is the LPG fueled taxicabs that, for the nth time, turned out to be contrary to claims that LPG (liquefied petroleum gas) is cheaper. Now taxicabs that converted their fuel system to LPG is having a hard time in finding refilling stations.
I disagree. Fully electric vehicles with good range and backup fuel options are on the market. Initiatives to bring down the price of these, R&D into commercial and industrial options and building infrastructure to support the vehicles would go a long way toward being independent of of oil as fuel.
 

Corzhens

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Re: Getting independent of oil

I am also for electric. But it is clear that electric-powered vehicles are encountering obstacles. From what I remember, the first electric car came out in Germany before the year 2000. It was on a test status that remained for 10 years. Until now, the electric cars cannot seem to take off because of inefficient battery - this is also the crux of the matter regarding solar power. Technocrats say that engineers should come up with a very efficient type of battery for the solar to be effective and cost effective as well. That also applies to the electric cars.
 
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Norm

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Re: Getting independent of oil

The true future is electric, since electric motors are vastly more efficient to internal combustion.
However the problem lies in batteries, they just can't store the energy that gasoline and diesel stores.
For this reason I know in the short term Corzhens is right, oil will reign supreme.
Give time for R&D to get batteries to hold more and decrease charging time, perhaps a few decades away we will have fully electric cars.
I've always wondered why electric cars are taking so long to catch on, so thanks for sharing your knowledge. I agree that it is the future and I can't wait until that time comes because apart from the other more common worries about gas vehicles, there is one problem here I hate specifically which is air pollution. Being in a crowded city with too many cars, I really wish that all of them would become electric soon because it's becoming unpleasant to be outdoors, and it has been that way for a while now.
 
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