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    Hello everyone!

    I would just like to share what my husband just experienced today as he was driving to town this morning. Apparently, a small truck hit his passenger side door as the former was overtaking him on the road. It turns out that the small truck was a company truck and the one driving was a company driver, with the owner's daughter on the passenger's side. After police investigation and settlement between my husband and the owner of the truck, it was found out that the driver didn't even have a renewed driver's license with him. So the authorities had to penalize him for that. So aside from the damages to my husband's car that they have to handle, they also have other penalties to take care of.

    Businesses have the responsibility of ensuring that their drivers have valid and current driver's license when they operate their trucks. This also goes the same for the registration of their trucks on a regular basis to avoid penalty.

    How often do drivers renew licenses in your area and how often are trucks and vehicles registered in your transportation department?

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    In case the driver has no valid license, the company can also be liable because the vehicle has 2 responsible people which are the driver and the operator (which is actually the owner or the manager of the vehicle). The problem with road accidents is the ignorance of one party especially when the other party would threaten one party to a court case. I would assume that the truck driver would take full responsibility in the repair of the damages to your car. And as for the company, that accident will serve as a neat lesson regarding their drivers. Part of the good performance of a driver is the renewal of his driving license.

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    • #3
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      I think the frequency of renewal in our country is excessive and impractical, but if it's being used for work then there is no Che but to follow the rules no matter how wrong it is. I think a big part of the problem is though that even when the drivers have licenses it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the type that know or follow the rules of the road as many of the drivers here are a bit too aggressive and a lot of them do seem like they don't know or don't care much about the basic rules unless they know there are police around.

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      • #4
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        The owner of the vehicle and the driver are both equally at fault in a situation like this.The driver will be sanctioned by the authorities for breaching the traffic law and the owner will be liable for any damages because of they error of not monitoring the eligibility of the driver to operate the vehicle. The owner may be exempted from claiming any insurance coverage because he or she had allowed an ineligible person to operate the vehicle.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by explorerx7 View Post
          The owner of the vehicle and the driver are both equally at fault in a situation like this.The driver will be sanctioned by the authorities for breaching the traffic law and the owner will be liable for any damages because of they error of not monitoring the eligibility of the driver to operate the vehicle. The owner may be exempted from claiming any insurance coverage because he or she had allowed an ineligible person to operate the vehicle.
          Yup I think the disadvantages really are this severe so it's in the best interest of the employer to make sure that their bases are covered with concerns to this topic. The possible repercussions are too great if something goes wrong and in the end it will be the employer suffering most of the damage so it really is their responsibility to regularly check the status of their employees.

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            As others have already said, when an accident occurs then both the driver and the company they work for will be looked into, and if there is a problem with the insurance or the license that the driver holds, or even if the truck isn't road worthy, then here in the UK that can lead to huge financial penalties and implications. Even though I am a business owner myself, I do agree that the business will have to hold their hands up and admit to a portion of the blame. At the end of the day the driver is your employee, and while they are out there and on the roads in your vehicle, that are a representative of your business and have to be treated as such in the good times as well as the bad.

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              I think that this incident would somehow make the owner of the business become more wary and check on his/her drivers' requirements before allowing them to go on the road. I'm thinking that things have been a bit lax with regards to managing the drivers and trucks in this particular business and it has only been realized now that this incident has happened.

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                i do think that a few years ago, a lot of businesses did try and get round the system so to speak, and that's one of the reasons that these laws came in, in the first place. Businesses where all too quick to blame the driver for everything when in a lot of cases it was actually their fault for not having the right checks in place. Ina lot of ways, whenever new legislation comes in, you'll find that it's because the companies have brought it on themselves, and while I obviously try and run an all above board business myself, in the past there as been things that I've done that I've known not to be strictly legitimate but knew I could get away with, and any other business owner that say's they haven't is lying to be honest in my opinion.

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                • #9
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                  To ensure that all their staff have valid driving licenses at all times, the companies they work for should regularly check their driving licenses. Depending on the size of your fleet, it could be a costly exercise but it's well worth it because in case of anything and the driver is at fault then the company won't be legally obligated to pay for damages and the like.

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                    Originally posted by gracer View Post
                    I think that this incident would somehow make the owner of the business become more wary and check on his/her drivers' requirements before allowing them to go on the road. I'm thinking that things have been a bit lax with regards to managing the drivers and trucks in this particular business and it has only been realized now that this incident has happened.
                    I agree. A lot of regulations here are never followed because enforcement of laws is too lax so business owners don't feel much pressure to keep a close eye on things. Nonetheless I do think it is in the best interest of the company to follow these types of protocols anyway since it is such a simple task and the possible liabilities and risks are just too high so regardless of laws I think competent business people should really be more careful and perhaps these types of oversights are just due to people in the company not caring too much about their work.

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                      Originally posted by Vampa View Post
                      To ensure that all their staff have valid driving licenses at all times, the companies they work for should regularly check their driving licenses. Depending on the size of your fleet, it could be a costly exercise but it's well worth it because in case of anything and the driver is at fault then the company won't be legally obligated to pay for damages and the like.
                      I don't think there is a company doing this checking of the driving licenses for validity. That is a good idea because it can spare the driver from having an expired license. It happened to my husband one time when he forgot to renew his license which was due last month. Hurriedly, he went to the land transportation office on the next day to avoid getting a higher penalty if ever he would figure in a vehicular accident without a valid driver's license.

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                      • #12
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                        I totally agree with this proposal, in fact,any responsible employer should maintain a log the commencement, and the expiration date of each driver's licence.If there should be an accident with a vehicle being driven by a driver with an expired licence, there is the possibility of the company being slapped with a lawsuit, being prosecuted, or being denied compensation from the insurers because the driver was ineligible.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Norm View Post
                          I think the frequency of renewal in our country is excessive and impractical, but if it's being used for work then there is no Che but to follow the rules no matter how wrong it is. I think a big part of the problem is though that even when the drivers have licenses it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the type that know or follow the rules of the road as many of the drivers here are a bit too aggressive and a lot of them do seem like they don't know or don't care much about the basic rules unless they know there are police around.
                          It used to be that the driver's license had a validity of 1 year only. But then it was extended to be 3 years so that the driver need not go to the DMV (land transportation office) for renewal. And just recently, there is a move to make the validity 5 years to save the people the trouble of renewing the license. Regarding the driving manners, it is ironic that most drivers with a professional license are the ones who don't follow the road regulations. That bad driving is common in trucks and buses which are now being documented by CCTV footage.

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                          • #14
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                            As far as I know, in the Philippines, a student driver's license is good for 3 to 6 months, a non-professional and professional driver's license should not be renewed until every after 3 years. If drivers have an expired license and they still continue to drive for companies, and the company owner or manager is fully aware of the circumstances, then both shall be liable for any accident or negligence.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Norm View Post
                              I think the frequency of renewal in our country is excessive and impractical, but if it's being used for work then there is no Che but to follow the rules no matter how wrong it is. I think a big part of the problem is though that even when the drivers have licenses it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the type that know or follow the rules of the road as many of the drivers here are a bit too aggressive and a lot of them do seem like they don't know or don't care much about the basic rules unless they know there are police around.
                              My husband usually says that driving is different from operating the motor vehicle because driving means you are managing the movement so you should be aware of the road regulations and also should be conscientious to other vehicles. In other words, driving has a responsibility that comes with it. There was a bus that was caught in video while hitting the plastic road dividers. When the driver was called for an explanation, he was found out to be driving for only 3 weeks and had no experience in driving a bus. Worse, the driving test given was just one lap around the vicinity and he was instantly hired. So that makes the operator equally liable to the misdemeanor of their driver.

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