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    Hello everyone!

    In the Philippines, there are specific hours when trucks are banned from passing by the busy roads and main thoroughfares of cities, most specifically within our capital city Manila and its other surrounding cities. Due to this, trucks usually have to travel at night time to avoid paying for penalties related to truck bans. Traveling at night is usually dangerous though because of the possibility of the driver becoming sleepy while on the road. I have noticed that most of them already feel tired and sleepy when they are still on the road in the early morning. We have encountered a lot of these drivers on the road before every time we travel early in the morning.

    In your country, what are the policies on truck bans? Do you think these bans affect the delivery time of supplies? What are your suggestions when it comes to implementing truck bans?

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    The truck ban hours of 6am to 10pm is kind of restrictive. But surprisingly, the truck owners and operators did not protest much maybe because they admit the fact that trucks can add to the heavy traffic in the daytime. In fact, at exactly 10 pm when the trucks start moving on the roads, heavy traffic is experienced in main roads so the authorities have designated a lane exclusively for trucks. In main roads here, there is a lane called Truck Lane that is the only lane that big trucks can use. So now warehouse operators are being creative in their business because of that truck ban during the daytime hours.

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      I think the truck ban law here is reasonable but only serves as a bandaid and should not be relied on as the main solution. For me the main problem is the lack of proper infrastructure and sufficient road space. What I find even more absurd is having a law that prevents car owners from using their own cars at certain days of the week. I think relying on these types of solutions as a long term plan is kind of medieval.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Norm View Post
        I think the truck ban law here is reasonable but only serves as a bandaid and should not be relied on as the main solution. For me the main problem is the lack of proper infrastructure and sufficient road space. What I find even more absurd is having a law that prevents car owners from using their own cars at certain days of the week. I think relying on these types of solutions as a long term plan is kind of medieval.
        I definitely agree with you there. While truck bans and other vehicular solutions to traffic are being formulated every now and then, they're absolutely not the answer to the continuously worsening traffic conditions, not only in Metro Manila but also in other cities in the country. We need to improve our roads by widening, paving, and adding more routes for travelers to pass though. This worsening traffic problem has affected a lot of businesses and individuals through the years that a concrete plan needs to be developed to lessen, if not fully eliminate this condition.

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        • #5
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          This ban is not now in place in my country. I would support the institution of this ban here at anytime. There are some narrow roads in the rural areas here and these trucks will mostly cause a procession on the roads during the daytime in these areas because it's difficult to pass them when the traffic is frequent in both directions. In the cities there are numerous numbers of long trailers or large trucks on the roads throughout the day and they greatly contribute to the congestion on the roads. I believe that it's possible to schedule the operations of these truck to nighttime or early morning activity where possible, especially those long haul trailers, which would considerably reduce traffic congestion. I must add that what I have proposed is already in ecffect on a small scale because many of those tankers that transport fuel usually leave out to their destination during late night or early morning hours when the go on the long haul.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by explorerx7 View Post
            This ban is not now in place in my country. I would support the institution of this ban here at anytime. There are some narrow roads in the rural areas here and these trucks will mostly cause a procession on the roads during the daytime in these areas because it's difficult to pass them when the traffic is frequent in both directions. In the cities there are numerous numbers of long trailers or large trucks on the roads throughout the day and they greatly contribute to the congestion on the roads. I believe that it's possible to schedule the operations of these truck to nighttime or early morning activity where possible, especially those long haul trailers, which would considerably reduce traffic congestion. I must add that what I have proposed is already in ecffect on a small scale because many of those tankers that transport fuel usually leave out to their destination during late night or early morning hours when the go on the long haul.
            I see that traffic problem is not just an isolated case in our country. Same is true with fuel tankers here too, they usually travel at night and arrive at their destinations in the early morning. There are times though that some trucks still unavoidably be caught in traffic, especially in the morning when it is considered as a busy hour here. They do slow down the flow of traffic more but all motorists could do is to put up with the traffic until they reach their destinations.

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            • #7
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              There are some countries where trucks are banned from driving at night. In one story I read, this was supposed to curb the hijacking of trucks. Where truck bans are in effect they shouldn't affect delivery times because the ban should be taken into account when setting/providng the estimated delivery time.

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                Originally posted by Vampa View Post
                There are some countries where trucks are banned from driving at night. In one story I read, this was supposed to curb the hijacking of trucks. Where truck bans are in effect they shouldn't affect delivery times because the ban should be taken into account when setting/providng the estimated delivery time.
                That's true. I think that this also brings out the importance of giving realistic expectations for customers when it comes to delivery time. A supplier should take into account the delays that delivery trucks may encounter along the way, especially the regular truck ban schedules. These factors should be opened up to the customers so they will have realistic expectations when it comes to the arrival of their orders.

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                  Originally posted by gracer View Post
                  That's true. I think that this also brings out the importance of giving realistic expectations for customers when it comes to delivery time. A supplier should take into account the delays that delivery trucks may encounter along the way, especially the regular truck ban schedules.
                  And I think where customers are familiar with the truck bans they too will probably be more likely to understand that the supplier isn't to blame in case of delays. It can be inconveniencing that much is true but this is why retailers should be good at predicting when they'll be running out of stock so they can order early, so they'll always have what their customers need even if anything be it truck bans or anything else causes deliveries to be delayed.

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                    Originally posted by Vampa View Post
                    And I think where customers are familiar with the truck bans they too will probably be more likely to understand that the supplier isn't to blame in case of delays. It can be inconveniencing that much is true but this is why retailers should be good at predicting when they'll be running out of stock so they can order early, so they'll always have what their customers need even if anything be it truck bans or anything else causes deliveries to be delayed.
                    I agree. This is a system we also implement in our small retail business. Before stocks run out, we manage our inventories by ordering from our suppliers in advance so by the time our older stocks are all sold, the new supplies could have already arrived. There are still some instances when unexpected delays happen because of truck maintenance and sudden mishaps on the road. We have learned to adjust to these things by turning to other alternative sources of supplies for the mean time. The prices could be a bit higher from other alternative suppliers though.

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                    • #11
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                      The truck ban is a given in the metro but not in the rural areas. When a factory located in a distant province is expecting the delivery of their order, the truck ban is already considered since the travel time takes 10 hours so the expected delivery is met when the truck leaves the metro after the truck ban and reaches the destination by early morning. And with the trip back home, the truck leaves the province before midnight and reaches the warehouse before the truck ban. But the real problem caused by the truck ban in the metro is the short distance delivery where clients sometimes are too demanding as to insist on a delivery time of 2 hours regardless of the time of day.

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                      • #12
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                        Clients that demand a delivery within a certain time no matter what the circumstances are, are the type of clients that can make or break a business. in the past, while most of my clients have been accommodating when it comes to delivery times and they understand what problems can occur, I have had some clients that simply won't change their policy and then when a delivery is late they will underpay what they owe. it just makes business even harder because depending on the client and how much business they put your way, you then have to decide or not whether to just take it on the chin or pull them up and say that you warned them in the first place that the delivery could be late.

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                        • #13
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                          I am not in favour of been underpaid for the goods in an event that circumstances beyond my control would have caused the goods to be late. What if it was a storm or some other mishap of a similar category which had caused the delay. I could be open to the granting of a discount but would not be in agreement with being arbitrarily underpaid. If the there is a problem with the lateness of the goods, then there is the option of the customer not accepting the goods. Sometimes they are just being dishonest in using the unavoidable mishap to seek to exploit a situation where they would be able to avoid paying the real price for the goods.

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                            Originally posted by Vampa View Post
                            And I think where customers are familiar with the truck bans they too will probably be more likely to understand that the supplier isn't to blame in case of delays. It can be inconveniencing that much is true but this is why retailers should be good at predicting when they'll be running out of stock so they can order early, so they'll always have what their customers need even if anything be it truck bans or anything else causes deliveries to be delayed.
                            I agree but I think it is more the responsibility of the supplier or retailer to set the right tone for expectations of the customer meaning they should just calculate for the worst case scenarios and try to build their deadlines around that as an average because once a customer is promised something no matter what the circumstances are for the delays it will always leave them with a feeling of disappointment and being someone that is paying for a product or service I think it should not be left up to them to be understanding.

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                              Originally posted by explorerx7 View Post
                              I am not in favour of been underpaid for the goods in an event that circumstances beyond my control would have caused the goods to be late. What if it was a storm or some other mishap of a similar category which had caused the delay. I could be open to the granting of a discount but would not be in agreement with being arbitrarily underpaid. If the there is a problem with the lateness of the goods, then there is the option of the customer not accepting the goods. Sometimes they are just being dishonest in using the unavoidable mishap to seek to exploit a situation where they would be able to avoid paying the real price for the goods.
                              I agree with you. Sometimes there are some customers who could also be so unreasonable to their suppliers, but since there's this policy where the customer is always right, they usually get away with it. It's not fair for the supplier though because as you said, the customer can just choose to cancel his/her order instead of insisting on paying way below the price of the goods.

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