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    Do you know of companies availing of child labor? Most small caterers here hire young worker for their labor need particularly for the purpose of serving food. Isn't nice to see young food servers dressed in their white shirts? That's the reason of caterers. Besides, the work contract is only for a day when the caterer gets a job for an event like a party. However, there are rules and regulations governing child labor so I have been warning those caterers to be careful. When a parent of that child worker would complain, the caterer can be in hot water.

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    I think you could only get away with that in places where the judicatory system is a bit wonky. I don't see something like this being viable in the US since one small mistake can cost the business owner enough that it wouldn't be worth the risk, even if if it's just for a few days a year. That said, I do think it's healthy for kids to learn the value of hard work too even at a young age so on the other hand I kind of favor having that option.

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    • #3
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      I think child labor is fine when it is mutual or out of family necessity. Most other times it ends up as this horrible exploitation of vulnerable people that is fully designed to make some asshole profit, and that type of mentality has no place in the most advanced species on the planet.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by TheFunneler View Post
        I think child labor is fine when it is mutual or out of family necessity. Most other times it ends up as this horrible exploitation of vulnerable people that is fully designed to make some asshole profit, and that type of mentality has no place in the most advanced species on the planet.
        Do you know that in our country, children need a labor permit from the Department of Labor before they can be employed? Children or child is defined as one who is below 18 years of age. That permit is very common for child actors who appear on tv and in the movies. But for regular work like factories, there are child workers - mostly 16 to 17 years old, who are allowed even without those labor permit. The government is guarding against the exploitation of children since some parents are enslaving their children while they are idle at home.

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        • #5
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          A child labor is completely fine if it's legal. However, the work should match with young employee abilities. What is also very important is that his/her payment should never be defined by his/her age, as they are working like everybody else there. A working child should be paid hourly, I guess. It's the best option.

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          • #6
            Re: Child labor

            Originally posted by Corzhens View Post
            Do you know that in our country, children need a labor permit from the Department of Labor before they can be employed? Children or child is defined as one who is below 18 years of age. That permit is very common for child actors who appear on tv and in the movies. But for regular work like factories, there are child workers - mostly 16 to 17 years old, who are allowed even without those labor permit. The government is guarding against the exploitation of children since some parents are enslaving their children while they are idle at home.
            Very true. I think laws like this exist not only as a counter measure to exploitation by employers but also exploitation by families since taking advantage of kids exists in all cultures and the ones left unchecked get away with the most.

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            • #7
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              Child labor laws in most places don't usually protect from exploitation by their families, just by businesses.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by nytegeek View Post
                Child labor laws in most places don't usually protect from exploitation by their families, just by businesses.
                You are right. I find so many children being exploited by their own parents and the government couldn't do anything. It's not really nice to say this but there are extreme cases that some resorts have children who offer escort service to tourists. I know you understand what I mean. Those children are being used by their parents to earn dollars from foreign tourist. And there are babies who are rented for use in begging in the street. A beggar who is carrying a baby exudes that pathetic look which earns sympathy from passersby.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Corzhens View Post
                  You are right. I find so many children being exploited by their own parents and the government couldn't do anything. It's not really nice to say this but there are extreme cases that some resorts have children who offer escort service to tourists. I know you understand what I mean. Those children are being used by their parents to earn dollars from foreign tourist. And there are babies who are rented for use in begging in the street. A beggar who is carrying a baby exudes that pathetic look which earns sympathy from passersby.
                  Yeah it is horrendous. Where I live it isn't as bad as some parts of the world, but we tend to buy products from and support businesses in nations where it is bad. I have read about abuses in places like India that just seem unimaginable.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Child labor

                    Child labor usually happens in rural areas characterized by less knowledge of labor laws and more informal labor practices. I have read studies in the past concerning children hired at tobacco, coffee or fruit plantations. Most of them are sons and daughters of tenant farmers. Because their families worked in the farm or plantation, they were exposed to helping them out every now and then until it became the norm for them and for everyone else.

                    If the government doesn't intervene, this situation will continue to happen and children of plantation tenants will have a hard time getting a decent education, where they can dream big and be more than tenants when they grow up.

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                    • #11
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                      @xTinx, I know what you are saying. I have seen in the rural areas how the law is not being followed when it comes to child labor. Here in the Metro Manila, a child worker is required to get a permit from the Department of Labor. But in the provinces, no one would report or complain so child labor is just an ordinary occurrence. However, the issue comes to fore when a problem occurs like an accident or a fire in the factory. When lead poisoning occurred in one mining area, the media had uncovered that more than half of the workers outside the mines were children.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Child labor

                        Originally posted by xTinx View Post
                        Child labor usually happens in rural areas characterized by less knowledge of labor laws and more informal labor practices. I have read studies in the past concerning children hired at tobacco, coffee or fruit plantations. Most of them are sons and daughters of tenant farmers. Because their families worked in the farm or plantation, they were exposed to helping them out every now and then until it became the norm for them and for everyone else.

                        If the government doesn't intervene, this situation will continue to happen and children of plantation tenants will have a hard time getting a decent education, where they can dream big and be more than tenants when they grow up.
                        Actually, this isn't always the case and in many countries there are legal provisions making exceptions for some labor requirements in regards to farming. Many states in the USA for example have different provisions regarding labor when it comes to farming.

                        Also, industrial use of child labor in Asian countries is still a big, and possibly more widely practiced problem than what you are speaking of.

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                        • #13
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                          Yeah, it's really important to mention that child labor is normal in some places as long as its fair and family oriented. The main problem with child labor is exploitation rather than that they are working, if a kid wants to work and his family is poor, hey, who's who to stop them?

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by TheFunneler View Post
                            Yeah, it's really important to mention that child labor is normal in some places as long as its fair and family oriented. The main problem with child labor is exploitation rather than that they are working, if a kid wants to work and his family is poor, hey, who's who to stop them?
                            Most of the kids that work that I see are in family businesses where the kids are expected to learn the ropes starting at a young age because they will eventually take over the business. I also worked at our family business as a kid and I enjoyed myself a lot and even at that young age I felt a sense of fulfillment. Although I guess these situations are only a little bit similar to the actual child labor situation where kids are being exploited.

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                            • #15
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                              Yeah, even in Romania there are some companies which hires child on a day contract, also international franchises like McDonald's hires people who have just turned 16 on a part time job, really flexible one. It's great that the children are given the opportunity to learn how hard the money are made and what their true value are, but, at least in this field, people must be very cautious as there might be some companies willing to exploit children as a very cheap working head just so they would increase their profits.

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