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    In our office, the no overtime pay policy is enforced. That means you don't get extra payment no matter how long your work overtime. But in fairness ot the employee, there is a corresponding vacation or day off with the number of hours of overtime work. Some employees are complaining because they want money in exchange for their extra labor. But our office is firm in not paying extra because their reason is to prevent abuse of overtime work.

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    They can always set a limit to overtime work, I really don't understand why a policy like this would be reinforced. Maybe it's too late here, haha! I mean, sure, employees shouldn't complain since there is a corresponding vacation of hours of overtime work.

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    • #3
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      Some of my staff are doing just that - working overtime to compile a good number of days for vacation. However, our HR is strict on that. The overtime hours you rendered will have an equivalent number of days for a day off that should be availed (or used) within the week otherwise it will be forfeited. So that means you cannot pile up your day off to have a vacation in the Carribean.

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      • #4
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        When this plant opened about 3 years ago, this was supposedly a strict policy too. But at certain times of the year, like before the holidays, and when production begins to lag, overtime is allowed. It is extremely expensive, but it probably happens 3-4 times a year, with about 5-6 weeks of almost everyone with OT pay.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by primalclaws1974 View Post
          When this plant opened about 3 years ago, this was supposedly a strict policy too. But at certain times of the year, like before the holidays, and when production begins to lag, overtime is allowed. It is extremely expensive, but it probably happens 3-4 times a year, with about 5-6 weeks of almost everyone with OT pay.
          The HR department should have taken note of that excessive overtime. With a straight computation, overtime pay is more expensive than regular pay. So the equation is something like this. A company with 10 workers render 48 hours a week for each that totals 480 hours. When they all work 1 hour overtime that means there is an overtime work of 10 hours to be paid using overtime rate which is time and a half. When the overtime work becomes regular then it is cheaper to hire one more worker instead of making the 10 work overtime.

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          • #6
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            If you really want to enforce this: Set up consequences. If someone works overtime then they need to be written up. That would cut it out real quick. They would still need to be paid, but having people work and no be paid is wrong. Even if there's a policy against it. Morally -- It Is Wrong. They worked and your company is refusing to compensate them for their time in payment. Who cares about vacation days? They worked the hours, and so they must be paid for the hours they work. If you all are not careful then you may have some legal action headed your way.

            Like I said before, set up consequences for working overtime.

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            • #7
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              I worked as a graphics designer in an IT company once and since my job was just to complete projects I was never paid for overtime but I thought it was still fair since when there were no projects to finish I could rest as opposed to my coworkers who always had work to finish regularly. I'm not sure if they were paid when they worked overtime but I'm thing for them it would have been more fair whereas for me I think it was fair enough.

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              • #8
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                The compensation landscape has changed and employers are cutting out of the usual payment options and benefits which were available in the past. The bottom line is now making more money and the compensation and welfare of the workers are taking a back seat. Many companies will not pay overtime but they would readily want some workers to do as much work as it would take three workers to do.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by explorerx7 View Post
                  The compensation landscape has changed and employers are cutting out of the usual payment options and benefits which were available in the past. The bottom line is now making more money and the compensation and welfare of the workers are taking a back seat. Many companies will not pay overtime but they would readily want some workers to do as much work as it would take three workers to do.
                  This is really the case and it is unfortunate. I suppose there is still some balance to it as surely workers in the past also had their share of issues to deal with but probably with today's exponential increase of competition and resources, workers are expected to sacrifice more than ever since replacement has gotten much easier.

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                  • #10
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                    The movie industry in the Philippines is now changing some rules regarding work hours of people in the movie and tv production. From the present unlimited hours per day, the department of labor is hinting on a maximum of 14 hours of work in a day. Workers in the movie industry are complaining that they sometimes work for 20 hours and being paid 1 day wage. Obviously the producers are shortchanging the workers particularly those in the production staff who cannot complain since there is no security of tenure in the movie production, they are all contractuals.

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                    • #11
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                      So, let me check if I got this straight, your boss doesn't want to encourage over time work because that would mean he has to pay more, but still wants over time in his company? What kind of business is this, where you don't want to spend money, even if that means people are doing their job just right and even more? And why do people still do overtime there when it is clearly not worth it?

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by GenevB View Post
                        So, let me check if I got this straight, your boss doesn't want to encourage over time work because that would mean he has to pay more, but still wants over time in his company? What kind of business is this, where you don't want to spend money, even if that means people are doing their job just right and even more? And why do people still do overtime there when it is clearly not worth it?
                        That is the customary working hours in the movie industry. A day of work can be extended to 24 hours depending on the discretion of the director and producer. When the people quit working after 8 hours to the detriment of the project then for sure they wouldn't be hired anymore in subsequent projects. It is sad that movie industry workers are being treated like slaves. The reason why this issue of working hours came to fore was the deaths of some directors that they suspected were due to over fatigue and excessive stress from work.

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                        • #13
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                          That's absolutely no good to me. If you're getting paid per time you spend at work... you definitely should be paid for every minute you did as an overtime.

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                          • #14
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                            We have it worked into our contracts that we have to work overtime if necessary to the project but we will not be paid for any overtime worked.

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                            • #15
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                              Lack of overtime pay is inhuman. It does not account for the human need for rest - it is simply a product of ambition and unhealthy management. This is one of the key problems with society - that people in power are so willing to harm the health of others for personal gains.

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